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Re: lug-bg: gnome-bg i bulgarizaciyata kato cyalo :)


  • Subject: Re: lug-bg: gnome-bg i bulgarizaciyata kato cyalo :)
  • From: stoev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Julian Stoev)
  • Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 14:46:22 +0900



Bez da pretendiram za bezgreshnost, struva mi se, che triabva da
prochetesh pone eto tova:
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/IP-Subnetworking-6.html#ss6.1

Po-dolu pisha moite hipotetichni idei kym tebe. Moze da sa greshni,
moze da ne sa. Niamam opit s takiva konfiguracii i veroiatno shte
poluchish mnogo po-pravilni syveti.

On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 09:01:05PM +0200, stefan stefanov wrote:
|vuzlojiha  mi da postroia slednata mreja s Linux Router project i debian
|s dns po sredata. obache imam problem
|
|znachi screened subnet architectutre e tova:
|
|       telekoma 10.0.0.1
|           |
|           |
|       10.0.0.2 /255.0.0.0  (brcst 10.255.255.255)
|er)
|       217.5.130.1 /255.255.255.224 (brcst 217.5.130.31)
============================================================
=>	217.5.130.1 /255.255.255.0	(brcst 217.5.130.255)

|           |
|           |
|       217.5.130.2 /255.255.255.224 (brcst 217.5.130.31)
|ns)
============================================================
=>      217.5.130.2 /255.255.255.0      (brcst 217.5.130.255)

|       192.168.69.1 /255.255.255.0  (brcst 192.168.69.255)
|           |
|           |
|       192.168.69.2 /255.255.255.0  (brcst 192.168.69.255)
|ir)       |                |
|          |                |
|217.5.130.111           192.168.1.1 /255.255.255.0
|255.255.255.224         (brcst 192.168.1.1)
|(brcst 217.5.130.127)  
|                |
|               HUB               
|               | |
|               | |
|               | |
|217.5.130.104--+ | http
|217.5.130.105----+ ftp
| .  blah
| .
|
|
|er - external router s dva ethernetki routing tablicata e:
|
|217.5.130.0       0.0.0.0       255.255.255.224   eth1
|192.168.69.0      217.5.130.2   255.255.255.0     eth1
|10.0.0.0          0.0.0.0       255.0.0.0         eth0
|0.0.0.0           10.0.0.1      0.0.0.0           eth0
|
|i ako se opitam da dobavia 217.5.130.96 prez 192.168.69.2 i kazva
|NETWORK UNREACHABLE

Mi taka shte e. S tvoiata konfiguracia interfeisa eth1 na er  moze da
obrabotva paketi samo za IP 217.5.130.1-217.5.130.30 (viz tablizata ot
linka)

Netmask         Subnets Network B'cast  MinIP   MaxIP   Hosts  Total Hosts
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
    224            8       0      31       1      30     30
                          32      63      33      62     30
                          64      95      65      94     30
                          96     127      97     126     30
                         128     159     129     158     30
                         160     191     161     190     30
                         192     223     193     222     30
                         224     255     225     254     30     240

Syshto taka mi se struva, che tova 
192.168.69.0      217.5.130.2    255.255.255.0     eth1
ne samo e izlishno, no i vredno za er. Ot kyde na er shte ti se poiavi
paket za 192.168.69.0? Takiva paketi ne mogat da se motat toku-taka v
er. Ot er ti triabva da mozesh da ping-vash mrezata 217.5.130.0, no ne
i 192.168.69.0

Ako pitash mene mahni go, no ostavi po-dolu kakto e. Zashto dolu moze
da ti potriabva? Ami mozesh da reshish da si pravish razni vytreshni
domaini s ns. I DNS mashinata v takyv sluchai triabva da znae kakvo da
gi pravi takiva paketi.

Ako si maniak na tema sigurnost, mahni po-dolu
192.168.69.0     0.0.0.0        255.255.255.0    eth1
i napravi vytreshen DNS na druga mashina, primerno 
192.168.1.1

|ns - proxi i dns s dve ethernetli i tablica:
|
|217.5.130.0      0.0.0.0        255.255.255.224  eth0
|217.5.130.96     192.168.69.2   255.255.255.224  eth1
|192.168.69.0     0.0.0.0        255.255.255.0    eth1
|0.0.0.0          217.5.130.1    0.0.0.0          eth0
|
|ir . internal router i masq za vutreshnata mreja - 3 ethernetki:
|
|217.5.130.96     0.0.0.0        255.255.255.224  eth1
|192.168.69.0     0.0.0.0        255.255.255.0    eth0
|192.168.1.0      0.0.0.0        255.255.255.0    eth2
|0.0.0.0          192.168.69.1   0.0.0.0          eth0
|
|-----------------------------------------------------------
|navsiakude e debian. vsichki ipchains sa na accept.
|
|kakvo e ne kato horata. zashto ot er ne moga da pingvam ir? kakvo da
|napravia?
|
|tova e purvoto neshto s linux na koeto se naviha tuka i sega kato gledat
|che ne shte da stava i gledat mnogo podozritelno :(
|nadiavam se da mojete da mi pomognete.

Nadiavam se da sym ti pomognal.

--JS
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