Re: lug-bg: Izpolzvane na RPM?

[yaneti@xxxxxxxxxxx (Yanko Kaneti)]

On Sun, 2002-01-27 at 18:02, áÎÔÏÎ úÉÎÏ×ÉÅ× wrote:
> úÄÒÁ×ÅÊÔÅ,
> 
> îÑËÏÊ ÍÏÖÅ ÌÉ ÄÁ ÍÉ ÐÒÅÐÏÒßÞÁ ÎÑËÏÅ ÞÅÔÉ×Ï ÚÁ ÎÁÞÁÌÎÏ ÚÁÐÏÚÎÁ×ÁÎÅ Ó
> ÉÚÐÏÌÚ×ÁÎÅÔÏ ÎÁ RPM.  ïÓ×ÅÎ ÔÏ×Á ÍÅ ÉÎÔÅÒÅÓÕ×Á ÏÔÇÏ×ÏÒßÔ ÎÁ ÓÌÅÄÎÉÔÅ
> ×ßÐÒÏÓÉ:

http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm/

Kakto sam si se dosetil vsichko po nadolu e silno zavisimo ot
distribuciyata koyato izpolzvash, az shte opisha kakvoto znam za redhat

Kato cyalo rpm = dpkg, a takova neshto kato apt koeto da go ima
standartno navsyakude nyama, taka kakto i nyama edna edinstvena rpm
bazirana  distribuciya  (vse oshte :)

> ëÁË ÐÏ ÉÍÅ ÎÁ ÆÁÊÌ ÍÏÖÅ ÄÁ ÓÅ ÒÁÚÂÅÒÅ × ËÏÊ ÐÁËÅÔ ÓÅ ÓßÄßÒÖÁ ÔÏÚÉ ÆÁÊÌ?
> 
> 	(ðÒÉ äÅÂÉÁÎ ÔÏ×Á ÏÚÎÁÞÁ×Á ÄÁ ÓÅ ÐÒÅÇÌÅÄÁ ÆÁÊÌßÔ
> ftp://ftp.bg.debian.org/mirror/debian/ftp/dists/???/Contents-i386.gz)
> 
> ëÁË ÍÏÖÅ ÄÁ ÓÅ ÔßÒÓÉ ÐÁËÅÔ × ÄÉÓÔÒÉÂÕÃÉÑÔÁ ÐÏ ËÌÀÞÏ×É ÄÕÍÉ? áËÏ ÎÑÍÁ
> ÎÁÞÉÎ ÚÁ ÔÏ×Á, ÔÏ ËÁË×É ÍÅÔÏÄÉ ÚÁ ÔßÒÓÅÎÅ ÎÁ ÐÁËÅÔ ÓßÝÅÓÔ×Õ×ÁÔ?
> 
> 	(ðÒÉ äÅÂÉÁÎ ÔÏ×Á ÏÚÎÁÞÁ×Á ÄÁ ÓÅ ÉÚÐßÌÎÉ ËÏÍÁÎÄÁ ÏÔ ×ÉÄÁ
> 	apt-cache search ÄÕÍÁ1 ÄÕÍÁ2...)
> 
> íÏÖÅ ÌÉ ÄÁ ÓÅ ÉÎÓÔÁÌÉÒÁ ÐÁËÅÔ ÐÏ ÔÁËß× ÎÁÞÉÎ, ÞÅ Á×ÔÏÍÁÔÉÞÎÏ ÄÁ ÓÅ
> ÉÎÓÔÁÌÉÒÁÔ É ×ÓÉÞËÉ ÄÒÕÇÉ ÐÁËÅÔÉ, ÏÔ ËÏÉÔÏ ÚÁ×ÉÓÉ ÖÅÌÁÎÉÑ ÏÔ ÎÁÓ?
> 
> 	(ðÒÉ äÅÂÉÁÎ apt-get ÐÒÁ×É Á×ÔÏÍÁÔÉÞÎÏ ÔÏ×Á.)

tova sa nyakoi ot instrumentite koito ne zavisyat tolkova ot platformata

http://rpmfind.net/
http://rpm.pbone.net/
http://www.ximian.com/products/ximian_red_carpet/

> ðÒÅÄÐÏÌÁÇÁÍ, ÞÅ ÏÔÇÏ×ÏÒßÔ ÎÁ ÇÏÒÎÉÔÅ ×ßÐÒÏÓÉ Å ÒÁÚÌÉÞÅÎ ÐÒÉ ÒÁÚÌÉÞÎÉÔÅ
> ÄÉÓÔÒÉÂÕÃÉÉ, ÉÚÐÏÌÚ×ÁÝÉ RPM.  

tova sa platform-zavisimite

https://rhn.redhat.com/   (redhat network + up2date)
http://distro.conectiva.com/projetos/42/  (apt-rpm na connectiva)
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Spotlight/SoftwareMgr/
 
> ïÓ×ÅÎ ÔÏ×Á ÍÅ ÉÎÔÅÒÅÓÕ×Á ÄÏËÏÌËÏ ÉÍÁ Óß×ÍÅÓÔÉÍÏÓÔ Í/Õ ÒÁÚÌÉÞÎÉÔÅ
> ÄÉÓÔÒÉÂÕÃÉÉ, ÉÚÐÏÌÚ×ÁÝÉ RPM.  ðÒÅÐÏÒßÞÉÔÅÌÎÏ ÌÉ Å ÄÁ ÓÅ ÉÎÓÔÁÌÉÒÁ
> RPM-ÐÁËÅÔ, ËÏÊÔÏ ÎÅ Å ÞÁÓÔ ÏÔ ÄÉÓÔÒÉÂÕÃÉÑÔÁ, ÉÌÉ ÄÏÒÉ É ÄÁ ÉÍÁÍÅ ÄÏ×ÅÒÉÅ
> ÎÁ ÔÏÚÉ, ËÏÊÔÏ Å ÎÁÐÒÁ×ÉÌ ÐÁËÅÔÁ, Å ÐÏ-ÄÏÂÒÅ ÄÁ ÓÉ ÇÏ ÉÚËÏÍÐÉÌÉÒÁÍÅ
> ÓÁÍÉ, ÁËÏ ÎÅ Å ÐÏÓÏÞÅÎÏ, ÞÅ ÔÏÊ Å ÚÁ ÉÚÐÏÌÚ×ÁÎÁÔÁ ÏÔ ÎÁÓ ÄÉÓÔÒÉÂÕÃÉÑ?

tova silno zavisi ot paketa (programata)

ako imash paket koito instalira samo edin statichno linknat executable i
edin man page da kajem  toi 99% shte vurvi navsyakude 

ako imash paket koito instalira  programi dinamichno linkvashti se sus
stdlibc++ naprimer, kachvashti kup shared filove,  instalirashti startup
scriptove, desktop menutam,iconi  i t.n.  paketa stava silno zavisim ot
distribuciyata 

pec faila opisvasht daden paket moje da e _mnogo_ umen i da pozvolyava
kompiliraneto i izpolzvaneto za razlichni rpm bazirani distribucii, no
takiva programi (susdirjashti podoben umen spec fila vuv normalnata si
source forma) pochti nyama

> 	(ðÒÉ äÅÂÉÁÎ ÉÍÁ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÁ lintian, ÐÒÏ×ÅÒÑ×ÁÝÁ ÄÁÌÉ ÐÁËÅÔßÔ
> 	ÓßÏÔ×ÅÔÓÔ×Á ÎÁ ÓÔÁÎÄÁÒÔÉÔÅ ÎÁ äÅÂÉÁÎ.)

v malko po razlichen smisul
rpmlint  (http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~flepied/projects/rpmlint/)

i nai-nakraya svetloto budeshte (da se nadyavame) :)
Linux Standard Base (http://www.linuxbase.org/)

Pozdravi
Yanko
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