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Re: lug-bg: Opera 7.11 for linux [dano e poslednoto pismo


  • Subject: Re: lug-bg: Opera 7.11 for linux [dano e poslednoto pismo
  • From: teodor@email.domain.hidden (Teodor Georgiev)
  • Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 13:17:19 +0300


  Wizhte, tova pochna da stava masovost.
  Izcepi se niakoi ot Gorno Nanadolnishte za crack i t.n. i se pochne - ot 
edna strana go koriat, ot druga zashtitavat... I krai nqma. A trafika fyrchi, 
troshat se klaviaturi.

Kraino vreme e grupata da si opredeli politika - shte se tolerirat li takiva 
pisma, ili shte se premahvat. Ne e losho da se preduprezhdavat licata za 
postypkata im, a pri povtoren griah - anatema. Ne che se opitvam da 
opredeliam politikata na grupa - just my 2c tip.

Za spravka v drugite linux grupi (linux.at naprimer) podobni neshta nikak ne 
se tolerirat.  Dazhe i rusnacite pochnaha da gi rezhat.
Edno ot malkoto izklucheniq e isp-linux, kydeto 50% ot uchastnicite sa razni
mynichki US ISP-ta, pakistanci, indonezijci, kitajci, nigerijci, 
latinoamerikanci i prochie nacii, izvestni s ne dotam pochtenite si nravi i 
intelekt. 

Na Plamen Tonev samo shte mu kazha da se zamisli za razlikata mezhdu 
"svobodata" i "svobodiata". 

 Dano neshtata po temata otidat kym finalizirane.

<p><p>On Monday 26 May 2003 12:00, George Danchev wrote:
<em class="quotelev1">> On 26 05 2003 10:41, Plamen Tonev wrote:
<em class="quotelev1">> --cut-- 
<em class="quotelev1">>
<em class="quotelev2">> > Íÿìà äà êîìåíòèðàì äàëè å
<em class="quotelev2">> > ïðàâèëíî/ðåäíî/ìîðàëíî/çàêîííî/àíàðõè÷íî/õðèñòèÿíñêî/ìþñþëìàíñêî/åâðåéñêî
<em class="quotelev2">> >/á
 óäèñòêî/÷îâåøêî/æèâîòèíñêî/áúëãàðñêî/àìåðèêàíñêî/øâåäñêî è ò.í òîâà
<em class="quotelev2">> > ïîâåäåíèå - âñåêè ñè ïðåöåíÿ êàê ùå ïîëçâà ñîôòóåðà. Íå çíàì ñ êàêâî
<em class="quotelev2">> > ïðàâî êðèòèêóâàòå íà÷èíà ïî êîéòî òîé èñêà äà ïîëçâà ñâîÿòà Îïåðà?
<em class="quotelev1">>
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> ;-) àìè ìàé íå å ìíîãî öèâèëèçîâàí ïîäõîäà êîéòî å èçáðàë äà ïîëçâà è ÷àê
<em class="quotelev1">> ïúê 
 èñêà ñúäåéñòâèå....., íà òàêúâ "advanced" ñåëèíäæúð è åäíà áóêâà íå
<em class="quotelev1">> áèõ êàçàë... è åäâà ëè èìà ïðåä êîé äà îòãîâàðÿ èëè äà ãî ñàíêöèîíèðà íà
<em class="quotelev1">> "ñåëî", ÷å å íàðóøèë ïðàâàòà íà Opera Software ASA, êîèòî íå ñà âèíîâíè, ÷å
<em class="quotelev1">> òîé å ñëàáîîáðàçîâàí/îöåíåí/ïëàòåí, è íå ìîæå åäè êâî ñè, ïúê èñêà åäè êâî
<em class="quotelev1">> ñè ... Íî íåãî òîâà íå ãî å ãðèæà... èñêà ñè ÷óæä êåé è òîâà ñè å ...
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">>
<em class="quotelev2">> > Â ìîìåíòà ÿ ïîëçâàì ñ áàíåð. Àêî èìàì âúçìîæíîñò ùå ñè ðàçêàðàì áàíåðà.
<em class="quotelev2">> > Ïðîñòî ïðåäè äà ìó êàæåòå äà ïîëçâà Mozilla òðÿáâà äà ñå çàìèñëèòå çàùî
<em class="quotelev2">> > ïîëçâà Îïåðà? Íà PII 300 íå å ìíîãî êðàñèâî äà ñè ïóñíåø Mozilla, íèòî
<em class="quotelev2">> > äîðè
 FireBird (áèâøèÿò Phoenix).
<em class="quotelev1">>
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> õìì, hard to believe... 
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> MemTotal:       190196 kB
<em class="quotelev1">> vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
<em class="quotelev1">> model name      : Celeron (Mendocino)
<em class="quotelev1">> cpu MHz         : 300.686
<em class="quotelev1">> cache size      : 128 KB
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> debian:~# time mozilla
<em class="quotelev1">> real    0m4.290s
<em class="quotelev1">> user    0m1.390s
<em class="quotelev1">> sys     0m0.540s
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> debian:~# time opera
<em class="quotelev1">> real    0m18.786s
<em class="quotelev1">> user    0m6.520s
<em class="quotelev1">> sys     0m0.390s
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> debian:~# COLUMNS=127 dpkg -l |grep opera
<em class="quotelev1">> ii  opera      6.03-20020813.2            The Opera Web Browser
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> Mozilla Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021204
<em class="quotelev1">> .mozconfig ac_add_options --enable-optimize=-O3, êîåòî íå âÿðâàì äà ÷àê
<em class="quotelev1">> òîëêî 
 îïòèìèçèðàëî CVS áèëäà íà ìîçèëëàòà ... íî îïðåäåëåíî íå îòñòúïâà
<em class="quotelev1">> íà íà Opera â íèêàêâî îòíîøåíèå ... à FireBird ùå ÿ ñêúñà ïîíå ïî
<em class="quotelev1">> speed-ups... 
<em class="quotelev1">>
<em class="quotelev2">> > ÍE çàùèòàâàì íèòî ãëåäàíåòî íà áàíåðè, íèòî
<em class="quotelev2">> > ïðåìàõâàíåòî èì ñúñ ñåðèàëíè íîìåðà è crack-îâå, çàùèòàâàì ñâîáîäàòà
<em class="quotelev2">> > âñåêè
 äà ïîëçâà êàêòî íàìåðè çà äîáðå ñîôòóåðà è äà îòãîâàðÿ ñúñ ñåáå ñè
<em class="quotelev2">> > çà äåéñòâèÿòà ñè.
<em class="quotelev1">>
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> óòðå ïîäîáðíà óòðåïêà ùå êðàêâà ñîôòóåðà êîèòî ñúçäàâàø òè, è ïîíåæå ïàê ùå
<em class="quotelev1">> ñè 
 å íà ñåëî èëè íà áðàçäàòà, ùîòî ìó å êóõà è êîðàâà ãëàâàòà, ùå ñå
<em class="quotelev1">> âúðíåì ïàê íà ñúùîòî äåðåäæå ... è ìàíè äðóãîòî ùå èñêà êåé îò ñàìèÿ òåá
<em class="quotelev1">> ;-) 
<em class="quotelev1">>
<em class="quotelev2">> > Òîâà å... ÍE çàùèòàâàì óìèøëåíîòî *íàëèâàíå íà ìîðàë* â
<em class="quotelev2">> > ãëàâèòå íà îêîëíèòå. 
<em class="quotelev2">> > P.S Èìàéòå ïðåäâèä ÷å ìîðàëúò å èçìèñëåí çà äà óáèâà ÷îâåøêîòî â ÷îâåêà.
<em class="quotelev1">>
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> P.S. the human is weak, íî ãëåäàì ãî, ÷å òîé å êèáîðã at åäè êúäå
<em class="quotelev1">> ñè...áðåé... 
 Îáà÷å å êúñìåòëèÿ ìîì÷åòî... ïàê äîáðå, ÷å èìà áëàãîäåòåëè
<em class="quotelev1">> êîèòî äàâàò 200lv è íà òàêèâà óòðåïêè... ïðåêàëåíî ñîöèàëíà äúðæàâà ñìå...
<em class="quotelev1">> ìäààà.
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> -- 
<em class="quotelev1">> pub  4096R/0E4BD0AB 2003-03-18
<em class="quotelev1">> 1AE7 7C66 0A26 5BFF DF22 5D55 1C57 0C89 0E4B D0AB <keyserver.bu.edu>
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> 
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