Re: lug-bg: Open Fest

[svetla@email.domain.hidden (svetla)]

Dam, niakakuv podoben na tozi koito smiatate da organizirane seminar 
napravih i az na 25 juli v offica mi. I auditoriata, koiato obhvashtashe 
seminara beshe ot windows  leko naprednali potrebiteli. Vuprosite im biaha 
kraino nachinaeshti ot sorta na:
Kak da pisha v OpenOffice na cyrilica, kak da printiram i etc. Ne se 
interesuvaha kak da si installnat printer, tui kato te dori ne sa vijdali 
linux puk kamu li da znajat kakvo e Cups i dr. Taka che nachalnite 
potrebiteli chesto imat ogromen problem s instaliraneto na nov hardware, 
dori niakoi ot tiah da sa minali veche installaciata na Linux. A kolkoto do 
tezi koito installvat Linux za purvi put. Trudno im e mnogo 
particioniraneto, ako ne izpolzvat grafichen klient za tova, problema im e s 
cfdisk/fdisk. Problema posle im e kak da si smeniat pravata na userite 
(UID), posle kak da si confignat XFree-to (osobenop goliam problem i pak 
osobeno s Debian - ima i takiva entusiasti). Problemi imat i kak se 
startirat daemonite, interesno im e kak chmod +x rc.X, s instrallpkg 
sistemite pri razl. distro. ..kak da si pusnat Samba, Apache..idva reda i na 
iptables. I sled kato se spraviat s tova pochvat da misliat s printeri, 
scaneri i etc.
Pone s tova sum se sbluskvala az. 

 

 

ep98_at_mail.bg writes: 

<em class="quotelev1">> Biah se otkazal da pisha po razni forumi i mailing lists, no shte narusha
<em class="quotelev1">> mulchanieto shtom e za dobrata kauza, wuprosa e da ne si ostane samo dobrata
<em class="quotelev1">> ideia (zashtoto zapitwali li ste se, kolko ot tezi na koito po mestnite festowe
<em class="quotelev1">> se instalirashe linux na lichnite im pcta, wse oshte go durzat ? ) 
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">>  
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> Primerno, kolko po lesna e instalaciata na edin Linux (Mandrake, Debian), pred
<em class="quotelev1">> edin windows, installacia na periferia (printers, scanners). Do kolko shte
<em class="quotelev1">> pokazete na nachinaeshtia Linux user che e po lesna si zawisi izcialo ot was, a
<em class="quotelev1">> che e po lesna towa e FAKT. Sravnete instaliraneto primerno na edin Laser
<em class="quotelev1">> printer brother hl1440 pod XP i Linux, w linux trygwa bez nikakwi trudnosti,
<em class="quotelev1">> nastroiki ili drivers download, a pod XP ? 
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> Kak edin user ot sredno nivo, moze za 20 min, da si pusne Apche, FTPD, IRCD,
<em class="quotelev1">> Firewall i Proxy pod X11(w chastnost KDE) 
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> Sigurnosta i udobstwata na Linux pri izpolzwaneto mu kato user workstation,
<em class="quotelev1">> office, internet - Abi Word, Cyrillic, KVIRC, Licq 1.2.7, SIM, Mozilla
<em class="quotelev1">> Firebird, Evolution 
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> Za nachinaeshtite (edin debian s raziasnenie shto e to APT i kakwi sa mu
<em class="quotelev1">> pliuswoete (kato se srawni s RPM i negodnia TGZ na slackware.
<em class="quotelev1">> (zashto debian li, shtoto pod RedCAP, ne wseki sredno nivo ili puk expert
<em class="quotelev1">> user/admin moze da se oprawi s Deps checking-a, ne wseki kato men se rovi 24h.
<em class="quotelev1">> w net, da gleda koe na kakwo zawisi i da gi pomni ot kude se swaliat i kak se
<em class="quotelev1">> slagat, pri Debian tozi problem e reshen, i wseki moze da si pusne OSD za Licq
<em class="quotelev1">> i MPlayer..... (hmmm razseiah se, sorry nali e swoboda na izbora) 
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> za naprednali i nachinaeshti (installacia na Wine ot WineHQ i WineX ot
<em class="quotelev1">> Transgaming, suwmestna rabota na dwete na edna stancia, nastrojki na
<em class="quotelev1">> windowskite igri za Linux, s cel (hmm wie si ia znaete) 
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> poddruzka na Trolltech QT2 i QT3 na edna sistema(zashto li???), primerno
<em class="quotelev1">> zashtoto KDE 3.1.x e super tezuk, a 2.2.2 strela( i niakoi hora nemogat da se
<em class="quotelev1">> obzawedat s WD, 7200, 8mb cache, i s dual ddr 400, i p4 3ghz, a s celeron po na
<em class="quotelev1">> 433, 64 ram i kde 2.2.2 w sluchaia e mnogo po burzo rabotesto ot windows 98(kde
<em class="quotelev1">> 3.1.x), a QT3 triabwa da go ima zashtoto mnogo ot programite kato KVIRC i LICQ
<em class="quotelev1">> go iziskwat 
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> Za i protiv 750te Linux distribucii i koia ot tiah e udobna naj mnogo za wsichki
<em class="quotelev1">> niva users (Debian), zashto li ? 
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> Kato zapchnete na dawate kachestweno obiasnenie na wuprosi ot roda na "Ne mi
<em class="quotelev1">> raboti PPP-to" i wie da go prepratite kum HOWTO, towa ne e nachin da zapalite
<em class="quotelev1">> niakoi po ideiata Linux - howtota mnogo, kolkoto ti dusha iska, 90% ot tiah sa
<em class="quotelev1">> oit of date, ostanalite 10% sa pisani za RedCap Windows, kojto ne e mnogo po
<em class="quotelev1">> LSB standart, samo malko w levo..... (HOWto-tata poniakoga wurshat rabota, no
<em class="quotelev1">> kakwa rabota mogat da swurshat na nachinaesht potrebitel, shte go pogledne,
<em class="quotelev1">> shte probva niakoi suwet ot towa howto, koeto e pisano predi 3 godini primerno,
<em class="quotelev1">> shte omaze Linux-a, shte si kaze "bal sum mu mamata, windows-a pone raboti"
<em class="quotelev1">> shte go zatrie i rezultata ot fests e nulev. 
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> Moze da im raziasnite primerno, zashto wse poweche i poweche (normalni durzawi,
<em class="quotelev1">> s zdravo misleshto pravitelstwo), zabraniha polzwaneto na Windows po
<em class="quotelev1">> administrativni centrove i prawitelstweni organizacii (ne s prostia otgovor
<em class="quotelev1">> shtoto windows Sux, ami stoto nemoze towa i towa) 
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> Ima i pone oshte 10 000 ideiki s koito moze da "pomognete" i ubedite horata w
<em class="quotelev1">> polzata ot towa da polzwat GNU i Debian, wmesto Windows i ActiveX....
<em class="quotelev1">> Öèòàò íà ïèñìî îò Spas Pavlov <spas_at_sz.inetg.bg>: 
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev2">>> On Tuesday 22 July 2003 11:10, Ivaylo Toshev wrote:
<em class="quotelev3">>> > Óô, îùå îò ó÷åíèê âèíàãè ñúì ñå ñòðÿñêàë îò ôðàçàòà "Íàáëèæàâà ìåñåö
<em class="quotelev3">>> > Ñåïòåìâðè ..." ;-)))
<em class="quotelev3">>> > Íàïðàâî ìè ðàçâàëè ëÿòíîòî íàñòðîåíèå ;-)))
<em class="quotelev3">>> > À èíà÷å êàòî ãëåäàì êàê ïîíàìàëÿõà ïèñàíèÿòà â ëèñòà, ÿâíî íàðîäà ãî å
<em class="quotelev3">>> > óäàðèë íà ïî÷èâêà, òàêà, ÷å Ñïàñ å äîáðå äà ïóñêà âñÿêà ñåäìèöà òàêîâà
<em class="quotelev3">>> > íàïîìíÿíå. 
<em class="quotelev2">>>
<em class="quotelev2">>> Íÿìàõ íàìåðåíèå äà ñòðÿñêàì íÿêîãî....
<em class="quotelev2">>> Ïîíåæå íèêîé íå îòãîâîðè ùå ïðîìåíÿ ìàëêî ôîðìóëèðîâêàòà íà âúïðîñà.
<em class="quotelev2">>> 1. Êúì íà÷èíàåùèòå â Ëèíóêñ: Êàêâî áèõòå èñêàëè äà âè ñå ïîêàæå, àêî
<em class="quotelev2">>> ïðèñúñòâàòå íà ïîäîáåí Ôåñò?
<em class="quotelev2">>> 2. Êúì íàïðåäíàëèòå: Êàêâî ñìÿòàòå, ÷å å äîáðå äà áúäå ïîêàçàíî íà ïîäîáåí
<em class="quotelev2">>> Ôåñò, èìàéêè â ïðåäâèä , ÷å íå å íàñî÷åí êúì íàïðåäíàëèòå â Ëèíóêñ, à
<em class="quotelev2">>> ïî-ñêîðî êúì ñëàáî è ñðåäíî íàïðåäíàëè? 
<em class="quotelev2">>>
<em class="quotelev2">>> Ñïàñ Ïàâëîâ 
<em class="quotelev2">>>
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