Re: lug-bg: mail.bg
- Subject: Re: lug-bg: mail.bg
- From: svetla@email.domain.hidden (svetla)
- Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:54:06 +0200
vijte puk moiata diskuskia s vuprosnite specove na mail.bg..:
<em class="quotelev1">> Zdraveyte,
<em class="quotelev1">>
<em class="quotelev1">> ima edin vupros:
<em class="quotelev1">> zashto nqmam access do smtp-to vi ot 212.36.16.1 ?
Ïðè îáðàòíèÿò Âè ðåçîëâèíã îòãîâàðÿò ìíîãî IP àäðåñè, ïî ñòàíäàðò òîâà
íåòðÿáâà äà å òàêà. Ïëþñ òîâà ñòå èì ïèñàëè èìåíàòà ñ ãëàâíè áóêâè, êîåòî
íå å ïðåïîðú÷èòåëíî. Àêî òðÿáâà ùå Âè êàæåì êàêâî íå Âè å íàðåä, ñïîðåä
RFC.
<p><em class="quotelev1">> zashto nqmam access do smtp-to vi ot 212.36.16.1 ?
Çàùîòî ðóòèíãà å êàëïàâ èëè ïî ïúòÿ èìàòå íÿêàêúâ ôàéúðóîë. Ìîæå
ïðîáëåìúò äà å è â Áîë.áã, ò.ê. ïúòÿ ìèíàâà ïðåç òàì. Ìîæåòå äà ñå
ñâúðæåòå ñ òÿõ è äà èì çàäàäåòå òîçè âúïðîñ, àêî è âàøèÿ òðåéñ å òàêúâ,
êàòî íàøèÿ. Ñàìî íå ìîãà äà ðàçáåðà çàùî òî÷íî îò òàì ìèíàâà - íÿìàòå ëè
äðóãà âðúçêà?!?
$ traceroute 212.36.16.1
traceroute to 212.36.16.1 (212.36.16.1), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 mx-balancer.mail.bg (193.201.172.113) 0.684 ms 0.193 ms 0.162 ms
2 bol2mail.mail.bg (193.201.172.26) 0.418 ms 0.326 ms 0.322 ms
3 bol2spnet.spnet.net (212.50.10.237) 1.465 ms 1.375 ms 2.734 ms
4 * * *
5 *
Àêî è ïðè âàñ çàïèðà òàì çíà÷è å ÿñíî êúäå ñå ãóáè âðúçêàòà. Èñêàì ñàìî
äà äîïúëíÿ, ÷å öÿëàòà íè çîíà ãî âèæäà òàêà. Âñè÷êè ìàøèíè ñòèãàò äî òàì.
Ñïîðåä ìåí òîâà å íÿêàêúâ ôàéúðóîë, íî íå ñúì óáåäåí, ÷å òîâà ñïèðà
ïîùàòà. Àêî èçïîëçâàòå íÿêàêúâ ÍÀÒ ìîæå äà èäâà îò äðóã àäðåñ äî íàñ.
<p><em class="quotelev1">> pozvoleno e i oshte kak ...
Äà - ïîçâîëåíî å, íî ÃÎÐÅÙÎ íå ñå ïðåïîðú÷âà - ùå èçïîëçâàì öèòàò îò
òîâà, êîåòî ñòå íè èçïðàòèëè: "But that doesn't mean applications will
pay attention. That's were the majority of the problem lies...". Ùå
äîáàâÿ è òîâà, ÷å íÿêîè âåðñèè íà DJBDNS (äà, ñúãëàñåí ñúì - íå âñè÷êè)
ñ÷èòàò ðåçîëâèíãà çà íåâàëèäåí è íå âðúùàò íèùî â òàêúâ ñëó÷àé. È òîâà íå
å íèòî ñëó÷àéíî, íèòî å ãðåøêà.  ñëåäâàùèòå âåðñèè å ïðîìåíåíî, ïðîñòî
çàðàäè òàêèâà êàòî âàñ, êîèòî èñêàò äà ðàáîòÿò íà ãðàíèöèòå íà âúçìîæíîòî
è èçâúí ãðàíèöèòå íà äîïóñòèìîòî. Èíòåðåñíî å äà ñå îòáåëåæè, ÷å
ôóíêöèÿòà gethostbyname() (àêî íå ãðåøà òàêà áåøå) ñúùî àìà õè÷ íå ñå
èíòåðåñóâà îò äðóãèòå PTR. À 90% îò ïðèëîæåíèÿòà èçïîëçâàò òúêìî íåÿ. È
íèêîé íå ñå å çàñèëèë äà ãè îïðàâÿ ñàìî çàùîòî âèå ñìÿòàòå, ÷å ïîíåæå å
ðàçðåøåíî, òà òðÿáâà äà ñå ïîëçâà.
<p>Teodor Georgiev writes:
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<em class="quotelev1">>
<em class="quotelev1">> ti pogledni che ITD ne sa mu dali prava vyrhu zonata.
<em class="quotelev1">> Posochili sa tehnite nameserveri.
<em class="quotelev1">>
<em class="quotelev1">> ----- Original Message -----
<em class="quotelev1">> From: "Vesselin Kolev" <vlk_at_lcpe.uni-sofia.bg>
<em class="quotelev1">> To: <lug-bg_at_linux-bulgaria.org>
<em class="quotelev1">> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:46 AM
<em class="quotelev1">> Subject: Re: lug-bg: mail.bg
<em class="quotelev1">>
<em class="quotelev1">>
<em class="quotelev2">>> Prichinata poradi koiato stava tova, e che imeto na host, koeto se
<em class="quotelev2">>> predostavia pri ustanoviavaneto na sesiata i zadavneto na EHLO
<em class="quotelev2">>> posledvano ot ime n host, ne syvpada s in-addr.arpa izvlechenoto
<em class="quotelev2">>> ime na tvoia mail server. T.e. vmesto mano.pazarjik.com, ti
<em class="quotelev2">>> izprashtash dns.pazarjik.com.
<em class="quotelev2">>>
<em class="quotelev2">>> Eto zatova na stava.
<em class="quotelev2">>>
<em class="quotelev2">>> Prosto ukazhi v sendmaila si, che pylnoto kvalificirano ime na
<em class="quotelev2">>> tvoia host e mano.pazardjik.com i vsichko shte byde nared. Ili
<em class="quotelev2">>> pyk ukazhi v zonata na 125.145.213.in-addr.arpa
<em class="quotelev2">>>
<em class="quotelev2">>> 130 PTR dns.pazardjik.com.
<em class="quotelev2">>>
<em class="quotelev2">>> i taka niama da promeniash imeto zadavano ot sendmail pri
<em class="quotelev2">>> izprashtane na EHLO.
<em class="quotelev2">>>
<em class="quotelev2">>> Procheti i RFC 821. Interesno e!
<em class="quotelev2">>>
<em class="quotelev2">>> Pozdravi
<em class="quotelev2">>> Vesselin Kolev
<em class="quotelev2">>> ----- Original Message -----
<em class="quotelev2">>> From: Marian Popov <mano_at_pazardjik.com>
<em class="quotelev2">>> To: <lug-bg_at_linux-bulgaria.org>
<em class="quotelev2">>> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:17 PM
<em class="quotelev2">>> Subject: lug-bg: mail.bg
<em class="quotelev2">>>
<em class="quotelev2">>>
<em class="quotelev3">>> > Zdraveite !
<em class="quotelev3">>> >
<em class="quotelev3">>> > Niakoi ima li ideia zashto ne moga da prashtam mail
<em class="quotelev3">>> > kym mail.bg ? Predi imashe problem che ne mi se
<em class="quotelev3">>> > resolve-ashe adresa ot koito prashtam.
<em class="quotelev3">>> > Ama sega se resolve i ne znam kakvo stava.
<em class="quotelev3">>> >
<em class="quotelev3">>> > The original message was received at Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:02:35 +0200
<em class="quotelev3">>> > from mano.pazardjik.com [213.145.125.130]
<em class="quotelev3">>> >
<em class="quotelev3">>> > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<em class="quotelev3">>> > <copy_at_mail.bg>
<em class="quotelev3">>> > (reason: 550 <dns.pazardjik.com>: Helo command rejected: [BG]
<em class="quotelev2">>> npenpameme
<em class="quotelev3">>> > moBa nucMo Ha gocmaB4uka cu; [EN] Pl...ICH DOES NOT CONFORM TO RFC-821
<em class="quotelev3">>> > SECTION 3.5 BECAUSE IT COULD NOT BE RESOLVED. See http://mail.bg/mta)
<em class="quotelev3">>> >
<em class="quotelev3">>> > ----- Transcript of session follows -----
<em class="quotelev3">>> > ... while talking to mx1.mail.bg.:
<em class="quotelev2">>> > >>> HELO dns.pazardjik.com
<em class="quotelev3">>> > <<< 550 <dns.pazardjik.com>: Helo command rejected: [BG] npenpameme moBa
<em class="quotelev3">>> > nucMo Ha gocmaB4uka cu; [EN] Please forward this mail to your ISP; [->]
<em class="quotelev2">>> YOUR
<em class="quotelev3">>> > SERVER pazardjik.com[213.145.125.2] SENDS WRONG EHLO
<em class="quotelev1">> "dns.pazardjik.com",
<em class="quotelev3">>> > WHICH DOES NOT CONFORM TO RFC-821 SECTION 3.5 BECAUSE IT COULD NOT BE
<em class="quotelev3">>> > RESOLVED. See http://mail.bg/mta
<em class="quotelev3">>> > ... while talking to mx2.mail.bg.:
<em class="quotelev2">>> > >>> HELO dns.pazardjik.com
<em class="quotelev3">>> > <<< 550 <dns.pazardjik.com>: Helo command rejected: [BG] npenpameme moBa
<em class="quotelev3">>> > nucMo Ha gocmaB4uka cu; [EN] Please forward this mail to your ISP; [->]
<em class="quotelev2">>> YOUR
<em class="quotelev3">>> > SERVER pazardjik.com[213.145.125.2] SENDS WRONG EHLO
<em class="quotelev1">> "dns.pazardjik.com",
<em class="quotelev3">>> > WHICH DOES NOT CONFORM TO RFC-821 SECTION 3.5 BECAUSE IT COULD NOT BE
<em class="quotelev3">>> > RESOLVED. See http://mail.bg/mta
<em class="quotelev3">>> > 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable
<em class="quotelev3">>> >
<em class="quotelev3">>> >
<em class="quotelev3">>> >
<em class="quotelev3">>> > --
<em class="quotelev3">>> > Marian Popov
<em class="quotelev3">>> > Siterm Engeneering Ltd.
<em class="quotelev3">>> > mano_at_pazardjik.com.NOSPAM
<em class="quotelev3">>> >
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