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Re: lug-bg: mail.bg

  • Subject: Re: lug-bg: mail.bg
  • From: ivo@email.domain.hidden (Ivaylo Toshev)
  • Date: 13 Mar 2003 13:56:13 +0200

neznam zashto no az vijdam samo chertichki - da ne bi da e morz ;-))

Ð?а Ñ?Ñ?, 2003-03-13 в 13:54, svetla запиÑ?а:
<em class="quotelev1">> vijte puk moiata diskuskia s vuprosnite specove na mail.bg..: 
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev2">> > Zdraveyte,  
<em class="quotelev2">> > 
<em class="quotelev2">> > ima edin vupros:
<em class="quotelev2">> > zashto nqmam access do smtp-to vi ot 212.36.16.1 ? 
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> �ðè îáðàòíèÿò �è ðåçîëâèíã îòãîâàðÿò ìíîãî IP àäðåñè, ïî ñòàíäàðò òîâà
<em class="quotelev1">> íåòðÿáâà äà å òàêà. �ëþñ òîâà ñòå èì ïèñàëè èìåíàòà ñ ãëàâíè áóêâè, êîåòî
<em class="quotelev1">> íå å ïðåïîðú÷èòåëíî. �êî òðÿáâà ùå �è êàæåì êàêâî íå �è å íàðåä, ñïîðåä
<em class="quotelev1">> RFC. 
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev2">> > zashto nqmam access do smtp-to vi ot 212.36.16.1 ? 
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> �àùîòî ðóòèíãà å êàëïàâ èëè ïî ïúòÿ èìàòå íÿêàêúâ ôàéúðóîë. �îæå
<em class="quotelev1">> ïðîáëåìúò äà å è â �îë.áã, ò.ê. ïúòÿ ìèíàâà ïðåç òàì. �îæåòå äà ñå
<em class="quotelev1">> ñâúðæåòå ñ òÿõ è äà èì çàäàäåòå òîçè âúïðîñ, àêî è âàøèÿ òðåéñ å òàêúâ,
<em class="quotelev1">> êàòî íàøèÿ. �àìî íå ìîãà äà ðàçáåðà çàùî òî÷íî îò òàì ìèíàâà - íÿìàòå ëè
<em class="quotelev1">> äðóãà âðúçêà?!? 
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> $ traceroute 212.36.16.1
<em class="quotelev1">> traceroute to 212.36.16.1 (212.36.16.1), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
<em class="quotelev1">> 1  mx-balancer.mail.bg (193.201.172.113)  0.684 ms  0.193 ms  0.162 ms
<em class="quotelev1">> 2  bol2mail.mail.bg (193.201.172.26)  0.418 ms  0.326 ms  0.322 ms
<em class="quotelev1">> 3  bol2spnet.spnet.net (212.50.10.237)  1.465 ms  1.375 ms  2.734 ms
<em class="quotelev1">> 4  * * *
<em class="quotelev1">> 5  * 
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> �êî è ïðè âàñ çàïèðà òàì çíà÷è å ÿñíî êúäå ñå ãóáè âðúçêàòà. �ñêàì ñàìî
<em class="quotelev1">> äà äîïúëíÿ, ÷å öÿëàòà íè çîíà ãî âèæäà òàêà. �ñè÷êè ìàøèíè ñòèãàò äî òàì.
<em class="quotelev1">> �ïîðåä ìåí òîâà å íÿêàêúâ ôàéúðóîë, íî íå ñúì óáåäåí, ÷å òîâà ñïèðà
<em class="quotelev1">> ïîùàòà. �êî èçïîëçâàòå íÿêàêúâ ��� ìîæå äà èäâà îò äðóã àäðåñ äî íàñ. 
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev2">> > pozvoleno e i oshte kak ... 
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> �à - ïîçâîëåíî å, íî ������ íå ñå ïðåïîðú÷âà - ùå èçïîëçâàì öèòàò îò
<em class="quotelev1">> òîâà, êîåòî ñòå íè èçïðàòèëè: "But that doesn't mean applications will
<em class="quotelev1">> pay attention. That's were the majority of the problem lies...". Ã?Ã¥
<em class="quotelev1">> äîáàâÿ è òîâà, ÷å íÿêîè âåðñèè íà DJBDNS (äà, ñúãëàñåí ñúì - íå âñè÷êè)
<em class="quotelev1">> ñ÷èòàò ðåçîëâèíãà çà íåâàëèäåí è íå âðúùàò íèùî â òàêúâ ñëó÷àé. � òîâà íå
<em class="quotelev1">> å íèòî ñëó÷àéíî, íèòî å ãðåøêà. � ñëåäâàùèòå âåðñèè å ïðîìåíåíî, ïðîñòî
<em class="quotelev1">> çàðàäè òàêèâà êàòî âàñ, êîèòî èñêàò äà ðàáîòÿò íà ãðàíèöèòå íà âúçìîæíîòî
<em class="quotelev1">> è èçâúí ãðàíèöèòå íà äîïóñòèìîòî. �íòåðåñíî å äà ñå îòáåëåæè, ÷å
<em class="quotelev1">> ôóíêöèÿòà gethostbyname() (àêî íå ãðåøà òàêà áåøå) ñúùî àìà õè÷ íå ñå
<em class="quotelev1">> èíòåðåñóâà îò äðóãèòå PTR. � 90% îò ïðèëîæåíèÿòà èçïîëçâàò òúêìî íåÿ. �
<em class="quotelev1">> íèêîé íå ñå å çàñèëèë äà ãè îïðàâÿ ñàìî çàùîòî âèå ñìÿòàòå, ÷å ïîíåæå å
<em class="quotelev1">> ðàçðåøåíî, òà òðÿáâà äà ñå ïîëçâà. 
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">>  
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> Teodor Georgiev writes: 
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev2">> >  
<em class="quotelev2">> > 
<em class="quotelev2">> > ti pogledni che ITD ne sa mu dali prava vyrhu zonata.
<em class="quotelev2">> > Posochili sa tehnite nameserveri. 
<em class="quotelev2">> > 
<em class="quotelev2">> > ----- Original Message -----
<em class="quotelev2">> > From: "Vesselin Kolev" <vlk_at_lcpe.uni-sofia.bg>
<em class="quotelev2">> > To: <lug-bg_at_linux-bulgaria.org>
<em class="quotelev2">> > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:46 AM
<em class="quotelev2">> > Subject: Re: lug-bg: mail.bg 
<em class="quotelev2">> > 
<em class="quotelev2">> > 
<em class="quotelev3">> >> Prichinata poradi koiato stava tova, e che imeto na host, koeto se
<em class="quotelev3">> >> predostavia pri ustanoviavaneto na sesiata i zadavneto na EHLO
<em class="quotelev3">> >> posledvano ot ime n host, ne syvpada s in-addr.arpa izvlechenoto
<em class="quotelev3">> >> ime na tvoia mail server. T.e. vmesto mano.pazarjik.com, ti
<em class="quotelev3">> >> izprashtash dns.pazarjik.com. 
<em class="quotelev3">> >>
<em class="quotelev3">> >> Eto zatova na stava. 
<em class="quotelev3">> >>
<em class="quotelev3">> >> Prosto ukazhi v sendmaila si, che pylnoto kvalificirano ime na
<em class="quotelev3">> >> tvoia host e mano.pazardjik.com i vsichko shte byde nared. Ili
<em class="quotelev3">> >> pyk ukazhi v zonata na 125.145.213.in-addr.arpa 
<em class="quotelev3">> >>
<em class="quotelev3">> >> 130   PTR  dns.pazardjik.com. 
<em class="quotelev3">> >>
<em class="quotelev3">> >> i taka niama da promeniash imeto zadavano ot sendmail pri
<em class="quotelev3">> >> izprashtane na EHLO. 
<em class="quotelev3">> >>
<em class="quotelev3">> >> Procheti i RFC 821. Interesno e! 
<em class="quotelev3">> >>
<em class="quotelev3">> >>    Pozdravi
<em class="quotelev3">> >>       Vesselin Kolev
<em class="quotelev3">> >> ----- Original Message -----
<em class="quotelev3">> >> From: Marian Popov <mano_at_pazardjik.com>
<em class="quotelev3">> >> To: <lug-bg_at_linux-bulgaria.org>
<em class="quotelev3">> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:17 PM
<em class="quotelev3">> >> Subject: lug-bg: mail.bg 
<em class="quotelev3">> >>
<em class="quotelev3">> >>
<em class="quotelev4">> >> > Zdraveite !
<em class="quotelev4">> >> >
<em class="quotelev4">> >> > Niakoi ima li ideia zashto ne moga da prashtam mail
<em class="quotelev4">> >> > kym mail.bg ? Predi imashe problem che ne mi se
<em class="quotelev4">> >> > resolve-ashe adresa ot koito prashtam.
<em class="quotelev4">> >> > Ama sega se resolve i ne znam kakvo stava.
<em class="quotelev4">> >> >
<em class="quotelev4">> >> > The original message was received at Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:02:35 +0200
<em class="quotelev4">> >> > from mano.pazardjik.com [213.145.125.130]
<em class="quotelev4">> >> >
<em class="quotelev4">> >> >    ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<em class="quotelev4">> >> > <copy_at_mail.bg>
<em class="quotelev4">> >> >     (reason: 550 <dns.pazardjik.com>: Helo command rejected: [BG]
<em class="quotelev3">> >> npenpameme
<em class="quotelev4">> >> > moBa nucMo Ha gocmaB4uka cu; [EN] Pl...ICH DOES NOT CONFORM TO RFC-821
<em class="quotelev4">> >> > SECTION 3.5 BECAUSE IT COULD NOT BE RESOLVED. See http://mail.bg/mta)
<em class="quotelev4">> >> >
<em class="quotelev4">> >> >    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
<em class="quotelev4">> >> > ... while talking to mx1.mail.bg.:
<em class="quotelev3">> >> > >>> HELO dns.pazardjik.com
<em class="quotelev4">> >> > <<< 550 <dns.pazardjik.com>: Helo command rejected: [BG] npenpameme moBa
<em class="quotelev4">> >> > nucMo Ha gocmaB4uka cu; [EN] Please forward this mail to your ISP; [->]
<em class="quotelev3">> >> YOUR
<em class="quotelev4">> >> > SERVER pazardjik.com[213.145.125.2] SENDS WRONG EHLO
<em class="quotelev2">> > "dns.pazardjik.com",
<em class="quotelev4">> >> > WHICH DOES NOT CONFORM TO RFC-821 SECTION 3.5 BECAUSE IT COULD NOT BE
<em class="quotelev4">> >> > RESOLVED. See http://mail.bg/mta
<em class="quotelev4">> >> > ... while talking to mx2.mail.bg.:
<em class="quotelev3">> >> > >>> HELO dns.pazardjik.com
<em class="quotelev4">> >> > <<< 550 <dns.pazardjik.com>: Helo command rejected: [BG] npenpameme moBa
<em class="quotelev4">> >> > nucMo Ha gocmaB4uka cu; [EN] Please forward this mail to your ISP; [->]
<em class="quotelev3">> >> YOUR
<em class="quotelev4">> >> > SERVER pazardjik.com[213.145.125.2] SENDS WRONG EHLO
<em class="quotelev2">> > "dns.pazardjik.com",
<em class="quotelev4">> >> > WHICH DOES NOT CONFORM TO RFC-821 SECTION 3.5 BECAUSE IT COULD NOT BE
<em class="quotelev4">> >> > RESOLVED. See http://mail.bg/mta
<em class="quotelev4">> >> > 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable
<em class="quotelev4">> >> >
<em class="quotelev4">> >> >
<em class="quotelev4">> >> >
<em class="quotelev4">> >> > --
<em class="quotelev4">> >> > Marian Popov
<em class="quotelev4">> >> > Siterm Engeneering Ltd.
<em class="quotelev4">> >> > mano_at_pazardjik.com.NOSPAM
<em class="quotelev4">> >> >
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