Re: lug-bg: Remote linux upgrade

[micro@email.domain.hidden (Plamen Tonev)]

Az pyk razbrah console connection v smisyl ne remote terminal a istinski
terminal...(na samata mashina) , otdelno kakto kazva njama dostyp do kutijata na
PC-to. Moje i da ne sym razbral pravilno - ako e taka edinstveno sys silno
jelanie, meditacija i izminavane na 8-stepennijat pyt na Buddha shte mojesh da
pipash tazi mashina. 
Ako imash remote console (ssh/telnet) njakyde bjah chel za
advanced takeover install na debian...sys njakakyva utilka...dali pyk ne beshe
PGI installer-a - ne sym siguren. Imashe 100% statija kak se praveshe tova i
stavashe vypros..tochno za replacevane remotely na drug linux..s
network/internet install...ako se setja - shte pisha, ako njakoi po dumite mi
moje da se seti kakvo beshe tova.

Pozdravi, Plamen

<p>On Tue, 8 Apr 2003 19:35:13 +0300
George Danchev <danchev_at_spnet.net> wrote:

<em class="quotelev1">> On 08 04 2003 17:42, Konstantin Angelov wrote:
<em class="quotelev2">> > Mori me edin vupros na koito bih iskal da znam otgovora.
<em class="quotelev2">> > Situaciata e slednata: PC sus instaliran slack.Niama console
<em class="quotelev2">> > connection.Niama i fizicheski dostup do PCto. E li vuzmojno da se
<em class="quotelev2">> > instalira debian vurhu slack-a prez internet i ako - kak?
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> Maj nesto nerazbrah tuka... ;-)
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> 1. Sled kato nqmash fizi4eski dostyp do machinata kakto i remote console 
<em class="quotelev1">> connection kak mislish da se log-nesh.
<em class="quotelev1">> 2. Mnogo unsafe dejstvie e da se install-ve edna distro vyrhu druga, stoto vse
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> pak v krajna smetka ste se polu4i 4e zapishvash files otgore vurhu 
<em class="quotelev1">> systestvuvasti ve4e files, da ne govorim 4e novata sistema mozhe da e 
<em class="quotelev1">> installed na razli4en po tip i broj partitions... o4eizvadno ste ostane bunch 
<em class="quotelev1">> of cruft (old useless/bad stuff) - neopredelena po koli4estvo, t.k. trudno 
<em class="quotelev1">> determiruema veli4ina;-) v zavisimost kakvo e instal-nato ot starata distro i 
<em class="quotelev1">> kakvo se install-va otnovata... T.e. "do not do overwrite, do replace", stoto 
<em class="quotelev1">> trudno ste ustanovish iste se ubedish 4e pri overwrite ste ima pylno 
<em class="quotelev1">> pripokritie na starite files s novite, da ne govorim kolko vreme ste ti 
<em class="quotelev1">> trqbva za ustanovqvaneto na tov, ako go "track-vash do dupka".
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> 3. Ako iskash opitaj da si upgrade-nesh Slack s nqkoq unofficial 
<em class="quotelev1">> util-ka (search linux-bg.org), no se backup-ni predi tova. Ako slack-a e 
<em class="quotelev1">> dosta star ne go my4i s upgrades i ako ne se nalaga naistina "leave it as is".
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> 4. Ako ste migrirash kym druga distro i neiskash da pravish full preinstallna 
<em class="quotelev1">> 4isto to mozhe da razhvyrlish/backup-nesh segashnata systema na nqkolko 
<em class="quotelev1">> partitions, t.e. da otdelish 4isto system files ot tvojte personal local 
<em class="quotelev1">> files, zapazvash tvojte personal data samo, drugo del. Naprimer backup 
<em class="quotelev1">> /etc....  /usr/local/ , /home/ , /root , /var/www i tam oste kakvoto si e 
<em class="quotelev1">> tvoe,  mqtash na otdelni partitions (ili partition) i samo 
<em class="quotelev1">> del-vash tova deto e na (bivshata) root filesystem i drugite fs na koito ima 
<em class="quotelev1">> systemni files, e.g. Slack-a (razbira se boot-nat si otdruga media Knoppix 
<em class="quotelev1">> LiveCD da re4em...) i tam posle mqtash Debian Base (ot Knoppix LiveCD da 
<em class="quotelev1">> re4em s scripta /usr/local/bin/knx-hdinstall). Sled tova, reshavash koe na 
<em class="quotelev1">> kyde ste mestish otbaknatite filesystems i vmykvash obratno. Imaj predvid 4e 
<em class="quotelev1">> ako na dadena filesystem imash directories i v nqkoq ot tqh ima 
<em class="quotelev1">> files&directories i ti montirash tam (v tazi directory) filesystem ( koqto ne 
<em class="quotelev1">> e bila montirana do momenta) to tova staroto deto e v tazi directory ne se 
<em class="quotelev1">> gubi, prosto si ostava na starata fajlova sistema, a ti vizhdash 
<em class="quotelev1">> sydyrzhanieto ot novata filesystema koqto si montiral, pri umount-vaneto na 
<em class="quotelev1">> koqto pak dostypvash tova sydyrzhanie ot starata filesystem koeto si vizhdal 
<em class="quotelev1">> predi montiraneto... da ne obyrkash /etc-tata samo, opredeleno staroto /etc/, 
<em class="quotelev1">> trudno ste go polzvash v novata systema ej taka napravo ili overwrite-vajki 
<em class="quotelev1">> staroto, t.e. trqbva da merge manually, monitorvajki zdravo s diff storoto i 
<em class="quotelev1">> novoto /etc ;-)... da ne si zatriesh userite ... think predi da mestish 
<em class="quotelev1">> nesto. Az si pisah na list hartiq edin pyt za tova koe kyde otiva ot starata 
<em class="quotelev1">> sistema i posle kak ste go vrystam v novata i ne mozhah da sgazq luka. No 
<em class="quotelev1">> tova e kakto sedoseshtash dosta time consuming & brainstorm meropriqtie ;-)
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> 5. Ako sistemata beshe Debian, i imashe remote ili local accessdo machinata, 
<em class="quotelev1">> to upgrade-a ot given selection ot packages kym new one e syvsem routine, but 
<em class="quotelev1">> flexible procedure. 
<em class="quotelev1">> 
<em class="quotelev1">> -- 
<em class="quotelev1">> pub  4096R/0E4BD0AB 2003-03-18 (no comments) <danchev_at_spnet.net> 
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