Re: lug-bg: Remote linux upgrade

[kangelov@email.domain.hidden (Konstantin Angelov)]

Predpolagam ne se izrazih po nai-pravilnia nachin, no Plamen shvana kakvo
imah vpredvid.

Znachi iskam da replace-na slack-a sus debian kato imam edinstveno root i
ssh.

Mashinkata ne e production ( obiknoveno desktop-che ). Popitah prosto ei
taka ot lubopitstvo( za sporta kakto se kazva ) ne che e nalojitelno.

Mersi za linka Plamene - moje da ne e nai-dobroto reshenie ot gledna
tochka na sigurnostta, no opredeleno e interesen.

<p><p>On Tue, 8 Apr 2003 Plamen Tonev said:

<em class="quotelev1">> Az pyk razbrah console connection v smisyl ne remote terminal a istinski
<em class="quotelev1">> terminal...(na samata mashina) , otdelno kakto kazva njama dostyp do kutijata na
<em class="quotelev1">> PC-to. Moje i da ne sym razbral pravilno - ako e taka edinstveno sys silno
<em class="quotelev1">> jelanie, meditacija i izminavane na 8-stepennijat pyt na Buddha shte mojesh da
<em class="quotelev1">> pipash tazi mashina.
<em class="quotelev1">> Ako imash remote console (ssh/telnet) njakyde bjah chel za
<em class="quotelev1">> advanced takeover install na debian...sys njakakyva utilka...dali pyk ne beshe
<em class="quotelev1">> PGI installer-a - ne sym siguren. Imashe 100% statija kak se praveshe tova i
<em class="quotelev1">> stavashe vypros..tochno za replacevane remotely na drug linux..s
<em class="quotelev1">> network/internet install...ako se setja - shte pisha, ako njakoi po dumite mi
<em class="quotelev1">> moje da se seti kakvo beshe tova.
<em class="quotelev1">>
<em class="quotelev1">> Pozdravi, Plamen
<em class="quotelev1">>
<em class="quotelev1">>
<em class="quotelev1">> On Tue, 8 Apr 2003 19:35:13 +0300
<em class="quotelev1">> George Danchev <danchev_at_spnet.net> wrote:
<em class="quotelev1">>
<em class="quotelev2">> > On 08 04 2003 17:42, Konstantin Angelov wrote:
<em class="quotelev3">> > > Mori me edin vupros na koito bih iskal da znam otgovora.
<em class="quotelev3">> > > Situaciata e slednata: PC sus instaliran slack.Niama console
<em class="quotelev3">> > > connection.Niama i fizicheski dostup do PCto. E li vuzmojno da se
<em class="quotelev3">> > > instalira debian vurhu slack-a prez internet i ako - kak?
<em class="quotelev2">> >
<em class="quotelev2">> > Maj nesto nerazbrah tuka... ;-)
<em class="quotelev2">> >
<em class="quotelev2">> > 1. Sled kato nqmash fizi4eski dostyp do machinata kakto i remote console
<em class="quotelev2">> > connection kak mislish da se log-nesh.
<em class="quotelev2">> > 2. Mnogo unsafe dejstvie e da se install-ve edna distro vyrhu druga, stoto vse
<em class="quotelev2">> >
<em class="quotelev2">> > pak v krajna smetka ste se polu4i 4e zapishvash files otgore vurhu
<em class="quotelev2">> > systestvuvasti ve4e files, da ne govorim 4e novata sistema mozhe da e
<em class="quotelev2">> > installed na razli4en po tip i broj partitions... o4eizvadno ste ostane bunch
<em class="quotelev2">> > of cruft (old useless/bad stuff) - neopredelena po koli4estvo, t.k. trudno
<em class="quotelev2">> > determiruema veli4ina;-) v zavisimost kakvo e instal-nato ot starata distro i
<em class="quotelev2">> > kakvo se install-va otnovata... T.e. "do not do overwrite, do replace", stoto
<em class="quotelev2">> > trudno ste ustanovish iste se ubedish 4e pri overwrite ste ima pylno
<em class="quotelev2">> > pripokritie na starite files s novite, da ne govorim kolko vreme ste ti
<em class="quotelev2">> > trqbva za ustanovqvaneto na tov, ako go "track-vash do dupka".
<em class="quotelev2">> >
<em class="quotelev2">> > 3. Ako iskash opitaj da si upgrade-nesh Slack s nqkoq unofficial
<em class="quotelev2">> > util-ka (search linux-bg.org), no se backup-ni predi tova. Ako slack-a e
<em class="quotelev2">> > dosta star ne go my4i s upgrades i ako ne se nalaga naistina "leave it as is".
<em class="quotelev2">> >
<em class="quotelev2">> >
<em class="quotelev2">> > 4. Ako ste migrirash kym druga distro i neiskash da pravish full preinstallna
<em class="quotelev2">> > 4isto to mozhe da razhvyrlish/backup-nesh segashnata systema na nqkolko
<em class="quotelev2">> > partitions, t.e. da otdelish 4isto system files ot tvojte personal local
<em class="quotelev2">> > files, zapazvash tvojte personal data samo, drugo del. Naprimer backup
<em class="quotelev2">> > /etc....  /usr/local/ , /home/ , /root , /var/www i tam oste kakvoto si e
<em class="quotelev2">> > tvoe,  mqtash na otdelni partitions (ili partition) i samo
<em class="quotelev2">> > del-vash tova deto e na (bivshata) root filesystem i drugite fs na koito ima
<em class="quotelev2">> > systemni files, e.g. Slack-a (razbira se boot-nat si otdruga media Knoppix
<em class="quotelev2">> > LiveCD da re4em...) i tam posle mqtash Debian Base (ot Knoppix LiveCD da
<em class="quotelev2">> > re4em s scripta /usr/local/bin/knx-hdinstall). Sled tova, reshavash koe na
<em class="quotelev2">> > kyde ste mestish otbaknatite filesystems i vmykvash obratno. Imaj predvid 4e
<em class="quotelev2">> > ako na dadena filesystem imash directories i v nqkoq ot tqh ima
<em class="quotelev2">> > files&directories i ti montirash tam (v tazi directory) filesystem ( koqto ne
<em class="quotelev2">> > e bila montirana do momenta) to tova staroto deto e v tazi directory ne se
<em class="quotelev2">> > gubi, prosto si ostava na starata fajlova sistema, a ti vizhdash
<em class="quotelev2">> > sydyrzhanieto ot novata filesystema koqto si montiral, pri umount-vaneto na
<em class="quotelev2">> > koqto pak dostypvash tova sydyrzhanie ot starata filesystem koeto si vizhdal
<em class="quotelev2">> > predi montiraneto... da ne obyrkash /etc-tata samo, opredeleno staroto /etc/,
<em class="quotelev2">> > trudno ste go polzvash v novata systema ej taka napravo ili overwrite-vajki
<em class="quotelev2">> > staroto, t.e. trqbva da merge manually, monitorvajki zdravo s diff storoto i
<em class="quotelev2">> > novoto /etc ;-)... da ne si zatriesh userite ... think predi da mestish
<em class="quotelev2">> > nesto. Az si pisah na list hartiq edin pyt za tova koe kyde otiva ot starata
<em class="quotelev2">> > sistema i posle kak ste go vrystam v novata i ne mozhah da sgazq luka. No
<em class="quotelev2">> > tova e kakto sedoseshtash dosta time consuming & brainstorm meropriqtie ;-)
<em class="quotelev2">> >
<em class="quotelev2">> > 5. Ako sistemata beshe Debian, i imashe remote ili local accessdo machinata,
<em class="quotelev2">> > to upgrade-a ot given selection ot packages kym new one e syvsem routine, but
<em class="quotelev2">> > flexible procedure.
<em class="quotelev2">> >
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<em class="quotelev2">> > pub  4096R/0E4BD0AB 2003-03-18 (no comments) <danchev_at_spnet.net>
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